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60m and Tektronix 465 in trouble

474.2 of for the 1 rst time in weeks no decodes of AA1A
 high bands still very good   10m VK2KRR      HS YB C9 ZS CE ZP CX PY stiil many

hrd and called 80 HS YB JA not all JA could cpy
then suddenly later in night all DX gone

60M
atn   DU1GM    en 6Y4AT

T2AR    60m hrd JT65 very weak 2 decodes -20 -22  early morning longpath ( only possible i think)
TUVALU   in  RI99ol  exotic grid..


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equipment in trouble
My Tektronix  465  after 30 years +  service sudden the CRT trace was gone
The fault had to be in the in the CRT H-Voltage part.
The Tektronix 465 is a real electronic masterpiece
 amazing advanced equipment from last century  70 ties
It is service friendly most transistors are in sockets.  And documentation is still available at Tektronix.

But the H-voltage sm-transformer and cascade are  most difficult to get to.
Laying in a shielded box under the V-amplifier board.
This bord has to be removed  the front panel was removed with all of its buttons.
Youtube shows remarkable examples how to refurbish or repair the 465 scope.
But removing the board and front is not shown. This is a real challenge i do not want to give up on this scope.
Special SAE hex-key's  are needed , preferable long shaft  T-shaped  models the hex bolts are very fixed.

I had to study a bit the SAE tool dimensions
64ths32nds16ths8ths4thshalfwholedecimal
(in)
1/640.0156
0.4
2/641/320.0313
0.8
3/640.0469
1.19
4/642/321/160.0625
1.59
5/640.0781
1.98

4/64  = 1/16 for most buttons, 5/64 for the time div switch shaft
3/64   for the dial and  the  trigger view push 20MHz pull shaft.

The 4 internal nuts  that fix the board at the front   an 1/4  with a flexible shaft can just do it .
I believe the 465 needs customized tools high quality  Chr-Vanadium steel.
I managed to modify metrix Hex key with a diamant  sharpener
the hard way that worked for almost all knobs

Found a local hardware shop that sells SAE hex keys of good quality.
De Koning
Groningen
Nieuwe Ebbingestraat 26
050 3125953


                                                       
It will have to be a DIY  6x Cascade like this one, since reasonable prized replacements are hard to find
Cascades are like in the old days of CRT TV a weak spot of Oscilloscopes if there are any available they are sold quick. 

                                                                 still some more knobs to go


                                            deep under the board and FAN motor is the suspect HV unit

Finally the Vertical amplifier board  was removed.
The input C's  3 legs!  have to be un-soldered to unscrew  the 4 nuts backside front panel.
Complicated job  these coupling C shields are soldered to ground hard  to see.
Removed the front cover plate and all !  knobs hoping to find screws that hold the V-amp board.
That would make this job a lot easier..
But no screws the wire ends are fixed to the frame  i should have read section 4-9 first
The Front cover plate was removed for good cleaning anyway.

 page 4-9  does not tell you all  nasty details.

Additional 3 extra wires and  a ground wire need un-soldering.
Removed the CRT socket for safety  for if the Voltage regulation would be way to high.
After separating the HV multiplier cascade
Yes! the 2450V  was back and the voltage regulating looks fine.
Then i  plugged the CRT socket back on.
 ! Warning  !  do not try to  measure the heather voltage with a non floating meter since the cathode is -2450v to ground!  A standard 50Hz  meter can not measure the 50kHz AC anyway

I measured  safe at the collector Q1418  30V tt  about 66kHz sinus shape.
Bit higher then should be 50kHz without the load of the 14kV-cascade.
A short time after boot  a beam dot was visible until the build  h-V in the CRT vacuum leaked away.
So the Cascade really is the problem as I had suspected.
Very hard to replace , it would not lift up enough to get the wire studs complete out.
And the HV  connector was struck under the CRT shield the part  doesn't want to leave the 465..
I seems the whole 465 has to be disassembled to replace a broken cascade

The 465 is a masterpiece of electronics but there are some weak spots.
Now the 465 disassembled parts are resting in boxes waiting  for a cascade possible a DIY type.
 6x 1nF 6kV 6x 10kV fast recovery diodes
the parts are ordered from Ebay

Radio market's  do not sell 10kV diodes   and the C's sold  5x more expensive
 no wonder that most HAM's  purchase their parts online.















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